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www.examiner.com/x-4172-Sa...Conspiracy
The article looks at the way terms like “conspiracy theorist” and “conspiracy nut” are not only used incorrectly, but unfairly, as forms of emotional appeals to discredit opponents with whom they disagree for reasons of ideology rather than logic.
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Tue, April 21, 2009 - 12:03 PMIndeed - as if people do not conspire. The word has come to be a mild expletive. -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Tue, April 21, 2009 - 12:35 PMYou're arguing a straw man. People who call you nutters "conspiracy nuts" are referring to the paranoid emotionalism of your theories, not to the inarguable existence of conspiracies.
Once a conspiracy nut believes that a conspiracy exists, especially if it involves Big Evil Republicans, he will accept any evidence, no matter how poor, that the conspiracy exists, and will reject any evidence, no matter how solid, that the conspiracy does not.
A conspiracy theorist asserts that *lack* of evidence is proof that the conspiracy is deep and vast. -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Tue, April 21, 2009 - 4:01 PMAnd sheeple like "The Man" aren't smart enough to evaluate evidence on their own. So they repeat mindless slogans from their favorite opinion leaders.
It's ironic that this particular authoritarian koolaid-drinker uses a straw man argument to validate his claim that we political freethinkers use straw man arguments! Gee whiz, that's really impressive ad-hom-slinging there! What do you do for an encore? Bite yourself in the arse? -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Tue, April 21, 2009 - 4:29 PMYou think you argued well, there, genius? You were free of "ad-hom-slinging"? -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Tue, April 21, 2009 - 7:13 PM"The Man" can dish it out, but the poor baby can't take the piss. Awww!
Maybe it's time to cultivate some critical thinking ability. Developing reading comprehension skills--in the sense of being able to understand what a writer has to say, in the spirit that it was written--is an essential part of that. Newsflash: It's possible for an intellectually mature person to entertain an idea, without necessarily buying into it. Revisiting Shawn's well-written article may be a good first step in that direction.
No, on second thought, you have too much ego invested in your second-hand memes. You'd be better off going back to your comfy little cave, and drinking yourself into oblivion with your fellow troglodytes.
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Tue, April 21, 2009 - 10:41 PM>> Maybe it's time to cultivate some critical thinking ability.<<
"Critical thinking" for you nut-jobs means believing bad evidence and paranoia. Haha. You lose! -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Wed, April 22, 2009 - 10:13 PMPeople never conspire ever. Nothing to see here folks - just move right along.
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Wed, April 22, 2009 - 10:26 PMTrolls like "The Man" remind me of an old saying about pig-wrestling:
You always get dirty, and the pig likes it! -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
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This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Sun, April 26, 2009 - 10:42 PMWhat is so amazing about the 911 op is how stupid it was. The "brains" behind this thing were very small brains indeed to think they could get away with it or that it was even necessary geopolitically in the first place. It is not just the most tragic event in US history - it may have also been the dumbest. -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Mon, April 27, 2009 - 1:24 AMSolari, assuming that we're both right about how it went down, I'm not sure that it was SHORT-TERM stupidity, from a Neocon perspective. We had the sympathy of the civilized world. Bush got the Afghan war that he wanted, as well as the police state measures at home that he wanted. Like Napoleon's invasion of Russia, W's war of aggression against Iraq--which used 911 as part of the pretext--was a huge, stupid political mistake. The Republicans are discredited by that, by their lackluster response to Katrina, and most of all by the current global economic $hitstorm.
But they have gotten away with 911 for nearly 8 years. Like you, I hope that Merkin voters learn the truth soon. Many of them already have their doubts. But I don't think that we should look to Obama for that. He's a pragmatist; he's not going to say that the system is broken.
50 years from now, historians may raise some doubts about the official mythology, but it would be very impolitic of them to do so now. Bush and the other Neocons are stupid about many things, but I'm not sure that 911 was one of them. Evil yes. But stupid? -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Mon, April 27, 2009 - 6:55 AMStupid in every sense of that term, and in the most obvious way for what it did to facilitate the wrecking of the global economy. Were it not for the "emergency atmosphere" created by 911 the market regulations would have remained intact. -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Mon, April 27, 2009 - 2:22 PMHAR! If yer tryin to fit a round peg into a square hole, it'll always seem stupid. It's obvious to you it's a stupid conspiracy only 'cause yer a nutter.
9/11 made all kinds of sense... to terrorists. -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Mon, April 27, 2009 - 2:32 PMDue to the risk of this tribe being trolled by "The Man" forevermore, we need to a new moderator, seeing as the current moderator has been inactive since late 2008.
It is clear "The Man" is here to obfuscate what happened on 9-11 and mock those who saw through the lies. -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Mon, April 27, 2009 - 3:31 PMShawn has one friend on tribe and just joined tribe on April 13th. -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Mon, April 27, 2009 - 3:36 PMBut even if he is new here, if he'd be active as mod then he'd be better than an absent moderator.
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Mon, April 27, 2009 - 6:42 PMIt made all kinds of sense to the people who had the Patriot Act waiting in the wings for the staged op to ripen. That was the beginnning of the end for this country as a democracy. By the way, I know a few people in law enforcement who saw through this charade day one. Not to mention:
patriotsquestion911.com/
But then you are not in law enforcement are you. Your just some lame troll without a life.
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Mon, April 27, 2009 - 8:21 PMJust like Dick Cheney. LMAO -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Tue, April 28, 2009 - 12:36 AMMaybe he IS Cheney. Hey Dick, have you shot any more of your hunting buddies lately? -
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Re: Rethinking Conspiracy
Tue, April 28, 2009 - 5:23 AMThat thought has crossed my mind. I know some people who know Cheney and word is he is into dressing up in black leather outfits and getting paddled for his many sins.
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